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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
4 years to gain our respect back from the world.....only took the fool 4 weeks to blow it and lose THE ENTIRE WORLDS respect! Well done orange chunk.....
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
He spoke well. Assertive and respectful. Protective of Canada without attacking the American people. Good balance.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Great leadership qualities folks. I never thought he had it in him. ?. Well done Canada. Respect for not bowing down like other leaders. Be proud Canada. We are of him.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Respect and VERY well said. America is in trouble, deep trouble.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
US Army veteran here… FDT and much respect to Trudeau as well as love to Canada, Mexico and Ukraine. Trump is a Fascist and his very existence goes against everything I swore in my Oath of Enlistment to defend and uphold
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
As an American, I am totally appalled that Donald Trump is our elected president putting himself & his selfish agenda ahead of the American people. Allowing people like Elon Musk, who is not a government employee to run amok in this country doing what he pleases when he pleases under the guise of ridding our country of wasteful spending, without any type of oversight. I am appalled at the GOP that refuses to stand up to Trump for the people they swore an oath to serve faithfully because they are so afraid of what Trump will do to them if they don't bow down and do his bidding. Shame on every doggone one of you for putting yourselves first before our great country. I am appalled of all of the people who voted for Trump, you are all going to find out. This isn't some tv reality show, and we all deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. Choosing to turn your back on our friends and ally's isn't going to go well and the American people are going to suffer because of it.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
From Germany, great respect for Canada and Mr. Trudeau who delivered a moving speech. Also a shout out to all our American friends who do not fall for Mr. Trump's lies and his bulldozer politics. I truly hope we all come out of these trying times alive and well, both sides of the Atlantic and beyond. The only chance we have is to stand together.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
7:48 welp, guess we're going to war then. Jesus fuck JUSTIN, President Trump has literally just this week made it clear how important respectful speech is to him (frankly, I agree). This global politics thing isn't a first-name affair, and it's one thing for the media to have a snarky quip about a world leader, but quite another for the leader of another country to declare it publicly. You've essentially left him no choice but to stand firm -- there is no wiggle room now. You and Zelenskyy may well have lit the final fuse for World War III. Cheers bud.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well, I must say Very well spoken , great choice of words respectively and dignified ❤️?
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I’m proud of the Canadian leaders, who are kind and care about the well being of Canadians, and the world, Canadian leaders who are respectful, and don’t bully the less fortunate countries, I’m so proud of the Canadian leaders, the Canadian leaders who aren’t bullies, and are well educated, unlike US leader Trump.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well done for speaking so articulately and intelligently nothing but respect for Canada from Scotland❤
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
As an American I support everything you are doing!! I respect your countries position. As an American I will endure until Trump is forced out of office. I’m praying for our country and for your country as well as our allies that had been there for us. I’m in my seventh decade and can’t believe this is happening. Peace and prayers.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I appreciate Prime Minister Trudeau! And I have much respect for Canada! ?? ? \nI’d like to see us recover relations with our allies and strengthen communication so we all can work together toward peaceful resolutions. This will help trade as well as climate concerns. \nIt Certainly Can Be Done! We must bring the best communicators to the table. \n(And begin with prayer because all peace begins with God!) ??️?
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
From Netherlands: Much respect to Canada for how they handle this. With dignity and strength. My best wishes to all Canadians, as well as the Americans that didn't vote for this.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Thank you PM Trudeau for a well articulated, respectful but forceful message. There are many clear thinking Americans behind you
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I fucking hate Trudeau, but I gotta admit, this was very well said. He said nothing but the Truth. Even though I'm a Castreau hater, I have a little bit more respect for our PM after this statement. Well said buddy.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well lefties are at work again, they know the tariffs are going to hurt them more. The other thing is respect. I hope this guy is voted out by his constituents
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Much respect for President Trudeau. So eloquent and well-spoken.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
We need to be respectful to all countries...US needs to know that as well...work together.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I am an American, but my Ancestors were French Canadians who immigrated to Montpelier, Vermont at the turn of the 20th century. Your support in wanting the best for both of our countries makes me so proud of my roots. Charlie Angus as well as Justin Trudeau have integrity and are willing and able to fight for what is right. Please know you are a highly respected nation by most of the people in this country. I have always been so proud of my country, but am now so embarrassed and deeply troubled. Please pray for your neighbors and the democracy of our Republic. I am related to Louis Cyr, Canadian Strongman. Don't give up on us. God be with both of our nations!
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Canadians may be respectful people ! But , Trudeau is not respected ! Quite simple ! Well done Trump ! Get back to the early days Canada ! Get rid of Trudeau!
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I was thinking to send my 8 years old niece to teach Trump how to do good trade. She does it so well (polite,respectful, considerate) to get treats (chocolates, food, etc.) from us.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
From Canada: Sorry but we did this to ourselves by not growing our economy as we could have done, by not expanding energy and trade, by being led by a non-leader who panders only to the east and disrespects the west, who spends money like it’s on fire. Trudeau could learn so much from Sen Robert Kennedy about spending money that isn’t his to spend… If eastern Canada would respect the wealth we have in the country, in the ground, we would not be in this position. Canada could be one of the wealthiest countries in the world and Canadians could have a very high standard of living. Instead we are stagnant and woke, dying from terrible drug policies and woke law, and bursting with a terrible “look at me, look at how good I am” immigration policy. We have no investment or tourism in BC, no foreign buyers, almost no airbnb, no fruit, soon to be no wine, but at least we have free drugs and 2000 genders, right Provincial NPD? That will help the bank account. And we have no respect for Alberta’s riches that benefit EVERYONE. All the power is centralized in Quebec, with the Bloc not even a federal GD party but somehow allowed to be a federal party, and Ontario and Atlantic Canada just loving a false sense of moral and intellectual superiority, and don’t forget transfer payments. And we have got ourselves into this Liberal government purgatory (thank God the Federal NPD have been decimated over it…at least there is some justice), so that we write cheques to make us feel good and look good despite that we can’t afford it. And we prevent growth and trade to make ourselves feel good and look good even though we can’t afford it. And here we are now, broke a** with no prospects and no savings. Well done Canada and well done Capitano Trudeau.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I'm proudly Canadian Trump is jerk , so is Elon Musk , Vance as well . 3 goof balls with no respect , no matters
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well done canada for standing your ground....having family there I know how strong the feeling is amongst Canadians.....be proud of who you are and take your produce , minerals and oil and deal with people who will treat you like an equal respected partner .I've no doubt europe will be next ......the american government will slowly isolate itself from its western partners and that's s real shame for the American public .......it'll cost jobs in the us cause inflation and it's gonna get a lot more expensive for everyone
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
trump is finished already dont deal with usa block them out of everything and look to other markets uk , europe, asia etc well done sir respect from the uk.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I stand with Canadian people as well but Trudeau is a pile of shit dictator and has absolutely no regard or respect for his nationnor anyone else's. He inky cares for his $20k lunch in his private jet flying to his penthouse suite in NYC to talk to other dictator tyrants from NY. Sorry Canada but yall been using us for way too long and we're tired of it.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well done Canada ??. It is time to stand up to bullies and unite with true allies that respect you and treat you with dignity. We seem to be dealing with a deranged madman who should be seeking proper medical treatment in a special medical facility, not ranting and raving in the Oval Office. Call it treason, corruption, greed, weakness, mental instability, cognitive decline, bullying, aggression, spitefulness, vengeance - the only person who should be considering resigning is the out-of-his-depth overpromising & under deliverer convicted sexual felon in the Oval Office who is p!ssing into the tent not out of it, with regards to your old allies.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Well done Mr. Trudeau, he is no longer Prime Minister of Canada. He can express his thoughts openly and honestly. Without harming relations between our countries, he can put diplomacy aside, while expressing himself in a respectful manner. Ukrainians must fight against an invader and put their lives in danger. Our invader is purely economic. Let us hope that all Canadians will show as much determination and respect for moral principles. Not to bow to a lawless mentality.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
You are well respected and highly regarded by majority in the whole wide world Justin Trudeau.Many countries and its people stand by CANADA!??????
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
It's so bad that you have to paint Trump's belly in order not to make things worse just because you're telling the truth.\n\nAnyway, I have a lot of respect for Trudeau, he's a REALLY smart guy. I wish we had him as chancellor in Germany, instead of Darth Merz Vader who unfortunately awaits us here for the next 4 years. But well, one look at the USA is enough to see that it can get much, much, much worse.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Scotland here Well Said very respectful ❤
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
From the Netherlands ,well spoken Prime Minister Trudeau , A rusian puppet in the White House , Your soldiers and the other allies liberated us from the Nazies 80 years ago ,we respected the US presidents from then on , but this Trump started floting due to lack of weight. Lets hope the Us peoples can solve this before it is to late. Tank you President Trudeau for speaking frankly the thruth.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Mr Prime Minister Trudeau you spoke so well. Thank You from California. Respect Canadian.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
Thank you Prime Minister Justin Trudeau , I am a Native New Yorker and I Love and Respect Canada and it's people. You are doing what you must do in the best Interest of your country. \nOur Illegitimate and Treasonous Leader Is not only a danger to The United States, But the World as well. WE are all Praying for the day that he is held accountable for all of his Crimes. And Removed from all our Lives for good.
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| 2025-03-04 | 0 |
I have always had a great deal of respect for Canada’s government and Canadians. A very calm, stable & friendly country. Well done for standing your ground!
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| 2025-02-25 | 0 |
VERY WELL PRESIDENT TRUMP, DON't LET ANYMORE ILLEGAL CRIMINALS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY, WE DON'T NEED THEM. ONLY PEOPLE WITH LEGAL PAPERS WHO RESPECT THE LAW LEAVE AND WORK IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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| 2025-02-24 | 0 |
Baaaaugh ha ha,,, please get away from our countries, but if they get cold, frost bitten or freeze....hush, be quiet and know you deserve that because you should not be sneaking Into into anybodies country. Use the energy you used to come to America with your hands out for free stuff, that ended. Why? Use that same energy in your own country and quit being lazy and do all you can to make it a better & nicer place for you & your family. Talk to your own government, just like you come here to our government begging with no pride or dignity. Well go back to your own country and talk or make appointments to talk to your home country, ask them what they can do for you and your family but also ask, what YOU can do to even make your community's a better place? mow lawns, plant a lawn,paint or work on houses,, help turn in criminals, if your williing to Chancee freezing to death, to come to America, don't do that because we the taxpayers are stuck disposing of dead bodies, but then again it might be cheaper then you being here alive, both ways, your not wanted or respected dead or alive . Stay Away, go home and make changes.
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| 2025-02-23 | 0 |
Dear bodacious,\nI totally agree with you. My Mother was Hungarian and she applied for citizenship with my Dad’s help because he had served in WW2 , and he was an American citizen.\nThey did everything the legal way. Mom took classes. Learned English. She was so proud of being naturalized as an American citizen.\nWhy can’t people obey our laws? They have respect for our Sovereignty or all the people, soldiers et al who fought for our freedom to exist and evolve as a nation.\nI agree with Bllood, Sweat, and Fears as well!\nThe President’s Cabinet are working well together: Kash Patel will move the FBI agents out to work the field of our country….hunting down terrorists and criminals. Trafficking in drugs/ sex/ slave labor.\nObama/Biden disobey existing laws. Hope all the stolen money gets frozen by the DOJ
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| 2025-02-23 | 0 |
Well said sir. I have respect ✊? for you and your country. ????
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| 2025-02-23 | 0 |
The left has been doing this for my entire life, and I’m old. Put it this way the left has no respect for democracy or laws at all don’t let the fool you into believing otherwise. They hide their law breaking as a “human right” almost always. Like the current immigration debate and past as well. The reality of you look at the number’s is that their friends want slaves.
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| 2025-02-15 | 0 |
Well said! by a respected & learned statesman….?
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| 2025-02-14 | 0 |
I am Québécois, and things here are quite different from the rest of Canada. For example, we have a law here that clearly forbids wearing religious signs when in a position of authority. Even a teacher, because they are a figure of authority for their students, could not wear the Roman collar, a cassock, a hijab, a niqab or anything else of the sort while in school. In the streets or any other public place, there is no problem at all. Everyone is welcomed to express their difference of culture or religion in the way they dress or in whatever other way. They are treated with the same respect and kindness as anywhere else in Canada. It is only that the separation of religion and state, and religion and authority is paramount here. Everybody is free and can express themsleves freely. But don't use that freedom to impose your views onto others. \nSo, when American judges are chosen for the federal court specifically because of their christian fundamentalist biases, it doesn't resonate well at all for me or the majority of Québécois. When the rights of the LGBTQ+ community are being questioned or jeopardised. Or a previous federal judgement like Roe v Wade is being overturned for religious reasons... it is a definite turn off for all of the Québec people to even remotely consider the United States as a destination to emigrate to (supposing that one would want to leave our beautiful country).\nMore and more, America, that used to be recognized as the land of the free, appears to be retrograde and restrictive and definitely not so free.
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| 2025-02-11 | 0 |
India is the traitor to the developing countries. India doesn't get respect because India keep bootlicking their former white colonial powers . How stxpid is that? Do you realise how low people look at you for doing that? \n?? You choose to impress the US government, the biggest bully of developing countries. Not intellignt at all. You choose to support Israel, a country created by the colonial power that raped your country poor. What's wrong with all of you ? Why do you hate China so much ? This sudden hate of China started after the closer relationship to the US and Israel. Well Israel and the US government doesn't even respect your leader. In fact, they don't like dark skin people. They only wants you as slaves
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| 2025-02-10 | 0 |
Happend to see many videos from diff countries depicting rubbish behaviours from Indians. I support visa rejections. Here in north America many north Indians are behaving like uneducated ones i would say. Zero civic sense , no standard no value for relations , zero empathy n tooooo greedy . I had respect for them until i met them in person. Wonder how these many people reached here !!! Lack of education is highly evident in them!! Ladies behave like men. Its interesting to observe n analyse these people. Proud to say that am a South Indian❤ proud to say that i cant understand or talk Hindi.But to be frank , met some humble, educated,super-sweet north Indians as well ❤
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| 2025-02-09 | 0 |
Dont worry come back to india work or do business learn a trade, India has lots of oppertunities but each one has to search and find it, dont loose heart, dont be ashamed,, even animals cross borders to find food and water , its natural,, but we humans made man made rules, regulations, borders for each countries security, stability, and well being, respect it, ???
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| 2025-02-03 | 0 |
India as a whole and a country need to earn the respect of the world.\nNot just a few as head of American top 100 companies.It's not enough.\nOutside America , where everyone know it employ a lot a lot Indians for their cheap labour in the IT works in America ,\nIndians aren't many as tourists and they have not been really well- mannered.\nAnd how about world contribution of Indians in the international fields , in sport, medical, IT, engineering , space , AI ,etc ?\nSitting in the comfort of your office with a top post only earn awe from your own fellowmen , but outside of India ?
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| 2025-02-03 | 0 |
Trump says EU tariffs will ‘definitely happen’ as Mexico, Canada and China retaliate
\nTrump takes softer line on UK, saying ‘I think that one can be worked out’, while Mexico and Canada vow levies and to strengthen ties with each other
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\nPhilip Wen, Léonie Chao-Fong and agencies
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\nDonald Trump has threatened to widen the scope of his trade tariffs, repeating his warning that the European Union – and potentially the UK – will face levies, even as he conceded that Americans could bear some of the economic brunt of a nascent global trade war.
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\nIt comes as Trump’s tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China, announced on Saturday, sparked retaliation from all three countries. Mexico and Canada have vowed levies of their own while China and Canada are seeking legal challenges.
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\nTrump said on Sunday night that new tariffs on the EU will “definitely happen”, repeating previous complaints about the large US trade deficit with the bloc and his desire for Europe to import more American cars and agricultural products.
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\nEmpty shelves remain with signs ''Buy Canadian Instead'' after the top five US liquor brands were removed from sale at a British Columbia liquor store in Vancouver.
\nAsian sharemarkets tumble in response to Trump tariffs
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\n“It will definitely happen with the European Union, I can tell you that,” he told reporters. “I wouldn’t say there’s a timeline but it’s going to be pretty soon.”
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\nTrump appeared to take a softer line on the UK, citing a good relationship with prime minister Keir Starmer while saying tariffs still “might happen”. “The UK is out of line but I’m sure that one, I think that one can be worked out,” he said.
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\n“Well Prime Minister Starmer’s been very nice, we’ve had a couple of meetings, we’ve had numerous phone calls, we’re getting along very well, we’ll see whether or not we can balance out our budget.”
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\nIn Canada, the department of finance published a list of US products imported into Canada that it will target with a 25% retaliatory tariff starting on Tuesday.
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\nThe list shows products that will be hit in the first round of retaliatory tariffs by Canada starting on Tuesday, and mounts to $30bn Canadian dollars’ worth of goods (about US$20bn). The impacted products include tobacco, produce, household appliances, firearms and military gear.
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\nCanada is also preparing for a second, broader round of retaliatory tariffs in 21 days that will target an additional C$125bn (US$86bn) worth of US imports. The second list would include passenger vehicles, trucks, steel and aluminum products, certain fruits and vegetables, beef, pork, dairy products and more.
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\nFILES-US-CANADA-MEXICO-CHINA-TRADE-TARIFFS<br>(FILES) US President Donald Trump speaks to the press after signing an executive order in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on January 31, 2025. Trump is imposing steep tariffs on major US trading partners Canada, Mexico and China, with a lower rate on Canadian energy imports, said the White House on February 1, 2025. Washington will impose a 25 percent levy on imports from Canada and Mexico, with a 10 percent rate on Canadian energy resources, until both work with the United States on drug trafficking and immigration. Goods from China, said the White House, would face 10 percent tariffs. (Photo by Mandel NGAN / AFP) (Photo by MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)
\nTop Democrats warn tariffs will hit Americans hard as Trump says it’s ‘worth the price’
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\nClaudia Sheinbaum, Mexico’s president, said her government will provide more details on the retaliatory tariffs she ordered on US goods on Monday. Sheinbaum, in a statement on Sunday, said she will announce details on her government’s “plan B” as she insisted that Mexico “doesn’t want confrontation”.
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\n“Problems are not addressed by imposing tariffs, but with talks and dialogue,” she said. “Sovereignty is not negotiable: coordination yes, subordination no.”
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\n'Coordination yes, subordination no': Mexican president responds to Trump's tariffs – video
\nSheinbaum and Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau spoke by phone on Saturday after Trump’s administration imposed the new tariffs – 25% on goods from Canada and Mexico, with a lower rate of 10% for Canadian oil, and 10% on imports from China.
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\nTrudeau’s office said in a statement that Canada and Mexico agreed “to enhance the strong bilateral relations” between their countries. Canadian officials have had extensive dialogue with their Mexican counterparts, but a senior Canadian official said he would not go as far as to say the tariff responses were coordinated.
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\n“Now is the time to choose products made right here in Canada,” Trudeau posted Sunday on X. “Check the labels. Let’s do our part. Wherever we can, choose Canada.”
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\nTrump acknowledged the sweeping tariffs he has imposed on Mexico, Canada and China may cause “short term” pain for Americans as global markets reflected concerns the levies could undermine growth and reignite inflation. Asian markets, cryptocurrencies and US and European stock futures slumped in early Asian trading on Monday.
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\n“We may have short term some little pain, and people understand that. But long term, the United States has been ripped off by virtually every country in the world,” he said. day, Trudeau said: “We’re certainly not looking to escalate, but we will stand up for Canada.” However on Sunday evening, a senior government official from Canada briefing reporters in Ottowa on condition of anonymity said: “We will obviously pursue the legal recourse that we believe we have through the agreements that we share with the United States.”
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\nThe official said the Canadian government considered the move by Trump illegal and said it violates the trade commitments between the two countries under their free trade agreement and under the World Trade Organization.
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\n“If other legal avenues are available to us, they will be considered as well,” the official said.
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\nCanada is the largest export market for 36 states, and Mexico is the largest trading partner of the US.
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\nCanada and Mexico ordered the tariffs despite Trump’s further threat to increase the duties charged if retaliatory levies are placed on US goods.
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\nChina also said it would file a lawsuit against the tariffs. The imposition of tariffs by the US “seriously violates” World Trade Organization (WTO) rules, China’s commerce ministry said in a statement, urging the US to “engage in frank dialogue and strengthen cooperation”.
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\nFiling a lawsuit with the WTO would be a largely symbolic move that Beijing has also taken against tariffs on Chinese-made electric vehicles by the EU.
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\nThe commerce ministry also said the tariffs were “not only unhelpful in solving the US’s own problems, but also undermine normal economic and trade cooperation”. China has said it would take countermeasures to “safeguard its own rights and interests”. It is not clear exactly what form these will take yet. But for weeks Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning has said Beijing believes there is no winner in a trade war.
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\nLate Sunday night, Trump said he would speak with Trudeau on Monday morning and shortly after said he would speak with Mexico as well, although he did not specify that he would speak with Sheinbaum.
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\nBeyond the official response, people were already thinking of ways to cope with Trump’s decision, including by sharing suggestions on social media for alternatives to US products.
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\nCanadian hockey fans booed the US national anthem on Saturday night at two National Hockey League games. The booing continued on Sunday at an NBA game in Toronto where the Raptors played the Los Angeles Clippers.
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\nFrom left to right, Toronto Raptors forwards Bruce Brown, Scottie Barnes and Chris Boucher react as fans boo the United States national anthem before NBA basketball game action against the Los Angeles Clippers in Toronto, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2025. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press via AP)
\nToronto Raptors fans boo US national anthem after Donald Trump tariffs
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\nOne fan at the Raptors game chose to sit during the anthem while wearing a Canada hat. Joseph Chua, who works as an importer, said he expects to feel the tariffs “pretty directly”. “I’ve always stood during both anthems. I’ve taken my hat off to show respect to the American national anthem, but today we’re feeling a little bitter about things,” he said, adding that he will start to avoid buying US products.
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\nIn the streets, people in Mexico were trying to absorb the announcement on Sunday, although some in the capital acknowledged that they were unaware of the measures.
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\nIn the border city of Mexicali, across from Calexico, California, some people were concerned about the wider implications of a trade war.
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\nDriver Alejandro Acosta says that he crosses the border weekly in his truck to deliver vegetables to US companies. He said he fears US businesses in the Mexicali Valley will no longer want to operate in Mexico and they will move to the US.
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\n“If they raise taxes on the factories here, jobs may also decrease,” he said.
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| 2025-02-01 | 0 |
Trump should really look hard into the last time the US went to war with CANADA it really didn't end well for US. We are really only nice when treated with respect as we treat others. This does not mean we are a push over or that we can be bullied. My family has a lot of US friends and we are sure that don't want this either...but rest assured we will not back down....and we do not want to become part of your USA Trump by any means. You are a dictator and not even a very smart one.
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| 2025-02-01 | 0 |
Trudeau is a wise intelligent well spoken man....he has a good heart....he is humble and will not allow insults ridicule threats accusations to create division....Trump respects Trudeau...Trump would gladly hire Trudeau...knowing he is an honest truthful trustworthy man...Trudeau word is good and bond....Trump and Trudeau can work well together....Wise men create peace fools create war.....do unto others as you want done to you....is the golden rule....it never fails....in difficult situations good people will outlast fools...Love endures all things....Love never fails....There are bad people trying to control Trump....they are using him as a scapegoat.....
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